Showing posts with label that. Show all posts
Showing posts with label that. Show all posts

Monday, March 21, 2011

Who and that

It's aggravating when a writer says "that" when he means who.

She was the one who lent me her car. That's correct. ("She lent me the car" would have been a better way to say it, though.)

He's the pilot that flew us to Phoenix. That's incorrect. (Yes, "He flew us to Phoenix" would have worked nicely.)

Aren’t you the one that wanted to ride with us? No. Sorry. (Who wanted to ride with us? You did.)

Cauliflower is a vegetable that I eat all the time. Yep. That is correct. At least the grammar is correct. I don't eat cauliflower often.

That's the kind of woman that turns me on. Thanks for playing, but no. She's still a who. She's the kind of woman who turns me on.

It's pretty simple. A person is a "who," whether you're giving a name or talking about a teacher, a linebacker, a taxi driver or a tax preparer. It's "that" when you're not talking about a person.

There is a gray area, though. I consider my dog Lady a "who." I thought of Secretariat as a "who." Same with Data, the android in Star Trek: The Next Generation. They proved in "Measure of a Man" that Data had rights, so he's a who. And, besides, I'm generous.

But, I'm also an editor, and I'm sorry ... a boat, whether it's the Lady Luck or the Queen Mary, is not a who.

Who's next?


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Friday, July 3, 2009

Overusing that and underusing on

Newspapers are always looking for ways to save words, and I generally agree. If you write a 600-word story but it can be said in 580 words, you're better off.

But there's one thing that bothers me: the use of the word on before a date.


I found this in a Miami Herald story:

Earlier this week, Davis said he thought any damage to his image was minimized when the Dolphins quickly informed the police and media outlets of Davis' whereabouts June 9.

The last part is the section that bothers me. "... Davis' whereabouts on June 9" sounds better to me.


I've worked at newspapers that wouldn't let you use the word on in that instance, unless there was a proper noun in front of it.

He drove his brother back to the Medical University on June 9.
In that case, on breaks up capitalized words, which I think avoids confusion.

I think the sentence needs something else. You might write it: Earlier this week, Davis said that he thought any damage to his image was minimized ...


The newspaper I freelance for now mandates that we use that in such instances. Sometimes they overuse that and underuse on, but that's their business.



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